Mannschaft turns 100

April 6th, 2008 | By: angela | 10 Comments »

Over at the DFB Website, they talked with DFB President Dr. Theo Zwanziger about the momentous occasion of the Mannschaft turning 100. It was on April 5, 1908 that the German national team played it’s very first game against Switzerland.

Question: These days, the DFB and every football fan in Germany celebrate the 100-year anniversary of the national team. What comes to your mind when you think of the Mannschaft’s long history?

Theo Zwanziger: We’ve had quite a successful run. Within eight years after the DFB had been founded, the national team played the inaugural game. Just think about which accomplisments were triggered by football in Germany, especially following World War II. Football always moved the people living here, whether because of the many major triumphs our defeats. We have really had an incredible journey.

Question: How do you evaluate the social impact the team had?

Zwanziger: Within our democratic society, the German national team is seen as a strong symbolic entity for competitiveness, discipline and fairplay. The Mannschaft functions as an international ambassador and the common demoninator for all people living in Germany. The team is our touchstone for a healthy patriotism. The 2006 World Cup was such a successful promotional campaign for German football, as people tell me when I travel. The summer of 2006 was a time to make friends, a very peaceful and joyous tournament. Football has the potential to bridge differences. If we continue to communicate meaningful messages, we could really improve overall social conditions.

Question: If you look back in time, what major influences do you attribute to the German team?

Zwanziger: I talked about 2006 – winning the 1954 FIFA World Cup was similar and yet very different. Then, a collective depression weighed on Germany, and football was an antidote. Following the fascist years, when criminals and murderers had ruled our country, and then the exclusion of Germany from the international community, winning the World Cup in Bern helped the German citizens to regain some confidence. We could accomplish something positive – that was the learning of 1954.

Question: It needed public criticism for the DFB to face it’s own past.

Zwanziger: We dealt with it rather late, only a few years ago, but not too late (The DFB financed the historical study “Fußball unterm Hakenkreuz” by Nils Havemann and hands out an annual award in the memory of former Jewish national player Julius Hirsch, editorial note). Looking at other federations, we are certainly not the last in dealing with the period between 1933 and 1945. Only because we reexamined the role that we had played during this murderous time, were we able to host such a light-hearted and untroubled World Cup. We picked the right moment and we did send out an important signal, without ever intending to hurt the feelings of people who had lived during these years or had been involved in the system. We should never stop to reevaluate our positions and to question ourselves. The DFB with its 6.5 million members has to face political and social responsibilities, which are part of our mission as a modern major sporting organisation.

Question: The DFB is also involved in an on-going battle against racism and against drug abuse.

Zwanziger: We need to shoulder this load, there is no other option. How can we claim to play a vital and important role in modern-day Germany, and then look the other way, whenever things get complicated? We certainly recognize, that violence and racism infect parts of our beloved game. We do not live in a perfect world. But by working in close partnership with the state, we can do our share to make things a bit better.

I became a fan of the German National Team during the World Cup in 2006. I’m late to the party, but I was completely captivated by them. It was the summer, June, and my work’s annual meeting was that weekend. I was up early, getting ready to check out of my hotel and there wasn’t much on tv. Flipping through channels I came across the World Cup match of Germany vs. Switzerland. Lukas Podolski had just scored his first goal and he came sliding into my screen. I was captivated by the charisma and heart that this team played with. I was instantly a fan.

That lead me to following the Bundesliga and Bayern Munich. I’m a big sports fan, but I’m a bigger fan of a team that plays a sport with so much heart. You can’t help but love a team that takes so much pride in their wins and carries so much grief in their losses. Here’s to another 100 years of hope, excitement and heart.


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Username By diana | April 6th, 2008 at 11:09 pm
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‘I became a fan of the German National Team during the World Cup in 2006. I’m late to the party, but I was completely captivated by them.’
Looks like I’m not alone, Angela. For me, it was also during the World Cup when it all began. It was also after the end of the World Cup that it had also led me to start following the Bundesliga.

From me initially just casually remarking that I rather watch the German national team than Brazil (I actually don’t know why I say that, to think of it)…to actually realising I was very sad when they were being knocked out in the semi-finals by Italy. I was watching the match at home on pay-TV then. I still remembered when the first goal struck towards the dying minutes in the added extra-time, I was shocked. I refused to believe it after the final whistle had been blown. It took me hours to sink in to the fact that they will not be in the final and I almost cried as a result (it was even the first time this happened to me when it comes to sporting events). It was then I realised, the Mannschaft had captivated me.

I know people had always said this match (Germany-Italy) is like the most exciting one in the World Cup but for a period of time, I refused to listen. Now if people talked about it again, I just brushed it aside.

‘Here’s to another 100 years of hope, excitement and heart.’
Agreed. :)

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Username By Angela | April 6th, 2008 at 11:21 pm
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Diana you are definitely not alone. I was heartbroken when they lost to Italy. I couldn’t believe it. I can still see clearly in my head the image of Ballack crying. That was heart breaking. They play with so much passion and love for the game that you can’t help but hope they will win and root for them with all you have in you.

People are often surprised that I follow European teams and even more surprised when they find out that I follow German teams. They don’t understand how it all happened. I guess because soccer isn’t all that big here yet. It’s gaining momentum, but it’s nothing like it is in Europe. But I tell you, as big of a sports fan as I am, nothing has been as captivating as that WC.

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Username By Euro 2008 Betting | April 7th, 2008 at 12:32 am
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Username By diana | April 7th, 2008 at 7:54 am
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Eek! I remembered photos of Ballack crying now, Angela. :( Even till now, any photos out of that match…I rather don’t look at it.

I was in a state of denial for a few days actually. When everyone else praised how well Italy are over Germany, I refused to take it all in. I remembered very well when the first goal struck (I didn’t say this in my earlier comment), I was like saying this in my head ‘Come on!’. I was sitting on the edge of the sofa then. When it was all over, I refused to accept it. I refused to read the papers analysing how it all go wrong for Germany and right for Italy.

‘But I tell you, as big of a sports fan as I am, nothing has been as captivating as that WC.’
Yes. The first WC I remembered was in 1994 in the US…but I was still a young schoolgirl and don’t remember anything significant. France hosted it four years later and all I remembered was Zidane. The 2002 version, in a way, that was when I first took notice of the Mannschaft especially when they were in the final against Brazil. I did watched the final then (at the Bayern Offside, I said the 2002 WC was when I first know of Oliver Kahn and so it will be a pity he’s hanging up his gloves at the end of the current Bundesliga season). And I should know, given back then my classmates were talking about the match the following day in class. :) Brazil were the favourites to win it but I went for Germany who were the underdogs then. I always have a habit of going for the underdog in a match if I don’t have a favourite team.

But then it was only when the WC went to Germany two years ago when it all happened. :) In a way I’m also ‘grateful’ that it was held in Germany given I secretly suspect if not, I don’t think I will be following the Bundesliga after the WC ended. Oh by the way Angela, I think it was the match against Sweden where Podolski did his slide, not Switzerland. I remembered seeing photos of it.

And when my father mentioned that I support the German national team to one of my relatives last year (we were talking about football among ourselves then), I realised that my enthusiasm on the Mannschaft is not lost in the family. But I’m the only one in the family following how the Mannschaft is doing. ;) To look back on the WC that was, I didn’t realised the Mannschaft had captivated me without me knowing it. There’s the group stages (but I remembered it was Lahm who scored the opening goal of the tournament given he did it quite early), when they were playing against Sweden, then there was Argentina (I remembered I don’t even dare to watch the penalty shootouts but I remembered I was happy when they were through) and finally during the semi-final against Italy…it really hit me.

The rest is history, as they say.

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Username By Angela | April 7th, 2008 at 9:07 am
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Diana - you’re right. I was typing that late last night and was thinking about something else, but it was Sweden yes :)

The world cup has brought the Mannschaft and some Bundesliga teams some great fans no doubt. They are a great bunch of very talented players and it’s fantastic to watch them improve on their skills.

And it’s good to know that you are the same Diana at the Bayern Offside. :) I write that as well :)

The WC was definitely an unforgettable time. It still makes my heart hurt a little bit when I see the tattoo that Toni got after that, but you have to move forward. Toni has definitely been an asset to Bayern.

I am just always inspired by the amount of heart that the Mannschaft plays with. They never come with less than 110% and I love that about them.

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Username By Nick | April 11th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
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Looks like Diana caught the Swiss typo. Angela, it really is amazing what is lost in translation in the DFB “English” site. Also apparently a lot of the historical moments in the German edition have been left out? I recently volunteered to help write for the blog and would like to give you a hand in writing the Germany blog. (I assume you are the same Angela in the Germany WC Blog) (Maybe write some retrospective historical pieces.) Seeing the Mannschaft over and over again makes me chuckle inside a bit but it’s really odd to hear something Germans never call (as a monkier) the DFB-11.

Personally I have followed Germany since 1998 (I was a bit young then) and let’s say the recent successes have been a long time coming! In fact I no longer get extremely nervous when Germany play because thankfully it’s safe to say they have returned to winning ways.

I was their also during the World Cup and from the beginning I knew the team had the potential to win the trophy. (Everyone around me seemed less than optimistic :-/ ) When Germany beat Poland in the final minutes in the group stages every German fan breathed a collective sigh of relief. Winning against Argentina shut my town down to a standstill…

In the end Germany lost, but perhaps it was better that way? Germany deserved to win for sure, but losing proved what gracious hosts Germans were even more! The WC has really and deservedly improved Germany’s image worldwide. (Even though you have CNN and other irresponsible English-language news sources constantly bringing up things not related to sport or Germany today.)

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Username By diana | April 11th, 2008 at 10:00 pm
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Nick, Angela writes both here and the Bayern Munich Offside. Angela, yes, it’s the same Diana who once commented at the Bayern Offside. ;)

‘Winning against Argentina shut my town down to a standstill…’
Whoa, Nick! Now you reminded me of my own memory of the match against Argentina. I was watching with my father then (we are like the only two in the house who can talk about football like there’s no tomorrow…even my mother gave up on me :)). Initially I was devastated when Argentina took the lead. I almost wanted to give up watching before my father was calling out from the living room. I was in my bedroom then and had to run out to see what’s going on and Germany had equalised. It gave me hope until the penalty shoot-outs came about. Even then I had to look away before it was confirmed Germany were through to the semi-finals.

Whenever I think about it since, I wished I had half of the courage to believe given my father had believed from the start that Argentina’s WC journey will end there and then. I still remembered very well the newspapers I read didn’t give Germany a lot of chance ahead of the match (to imagine the day after the match, I see one big photo of Juergen Klinsmann jumping being splashed in the sports section of the newspaper I read…it was his reaction to the penalty shoot-out win). It was then I learned why football has always been an emotional sport. That match proved it for me.

‘The WC has really and deservedly improved Germany’s image worldwide.’
Yup. I should know, the newspapers here back then were amazed as Germany being the host nation and how they are very gracious. But the fact that I can never get to watch the Bundesliga after the WC ended here at where I live in Singapore…argh. :( At the end of the day, the Premier League still dominate the scene here (maybe partly due to the former British colonial legacy, I mean among the first few things I learned about the history of my country back in school was that Britain were once our colonial masters and it’s a fact I cannot escape from) and that is one thing I cannot argue much about. At least I still get to see the Germany international matches here whenever the international week roll around (usually like out of 10 matches, I will get to see eight). I am easily contented. :)

Maybe it’s an irony that Germany lost in the WC, but then at least they win over some sceptics in terms of how the world once viewed them. I was once a History student myself and so in a way back then during the WC reading about the Germans were not afraid to be patriotic helped me to put a lot of what I had learned about Germany’s unpleasant past from the History textbook into perspective.

‘(Even though you have CNN and other irresponsible English-language news sources constantly bringing up things not related to sport or Germany today.)’
Yeah. Hear hear.

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Username By Nick | April 11th, 2008 at 11:41 pm
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Diana

When Ayala scored that goal I was pretty much ready to cry. It was eerily silent until Klose scored the miracle equalizer (after good work from Odonkor). After the final whistle blew a joyous roar ran through down the street. I felt I personally had won something, because all the worries and fears I had were gone in that moment.

When I later walked to the town center with my friends, I remembered the tram service was shut down. The timing ticker scrolled… Ausbruch ** Deutschland ist in die Halbfinale ** The center was mobbed with black-red-gold. Having lived in and traveled around Germany through the years I have never seen anything quite like it. That is, never had I seen such sustained and outward expressions of Germans supporting Germany. (It’s completely foreign concept to just about anyone with a nation.)

So yes, it has taken a while for Germany to repair its image abroad, but the WC brought out the best in Germany and the world has embraced it since. (Even English fans cheered for Germany.) It perhaps may take even longer for Germans to let go some of the guilt of the past, but I think football has opened the door. Zwanziger was right to say the victory in 54 was like but different from the event in 06. It’s a different kind of miracle. A physical nation was reformed in the minds of Germans then, and now an emotional one (a joyous and happy one in the eyes of the world) has been finally set on the path to a new normalcy. Germany lost yet won. Gewinnen kann jeder. Everybody can win… but a defeat today might mean something brighter tomorrow.

I hope I am not being too sappy! It’s just that, that summer was the culmination and release of a decade of stares (since Germany lost in France 98). I have almost always had to defend why I liked the German team, now I am glad to see finally it’s acceptable.

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Username By diana | April 12th, 2008 at 9:52 am
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‘I hope I am not being too sappy!’
Nick, it’s okay. I can be sappy at times too. Those who know me are aware that I can be an emotional person if the time calls for it and actually, the defeat to Italy was the first time I almost wanted to cry over a sporting event. It has never happened to me before.

‘It’s just that, that summer was the culmination and release of a decade of stares (since Germany lost in France 98).’
France 98…I was 11 and actually don’t remember much until the final itself given the host nation beat Brazil. The 2002 WC, that was when I started to watch football matches on TV given the time difference between here in Singapore and over in Japan and South Korea is very convenient (both Japan and South Korea share the same timezone, an hour ahead of Singapore). Which is why I did mentioned here I remembered the Germany-Brazil final given I did watched it. And the ball which hit the crossbar (it was only later on I found out Oliver Neuville had that goal attempt being denied) in which that moment stood out for me when I was watching (I don’t know why, that moment had been in my head since). Actually, when I heard my classmates mentioned that the following day in class, I sat up in the classroom and had to listen to what they were talking. :)

I soon forgotten about the Mannschaft. I know. I didn’t watched much of Euro 2004 (it was only later on I learned that Germany was out in the group stages) then the World Cup came along. Okay, I know back then Greece was the surprise winner because it was all over in the newspapers. And usually I don’t watch matches which are being broadcast in the wee hours of the morning (the European timezones can be a little crazy for people like me living in Singapore because of the time differences as I have to adjust my sleeping pattern if there’s a match I so have to watch) but, the semi-final between Germany and Italy was the first time I watched a match in the wee hours of the morning.

When it ended, I never headed for bed. There was like an hour or so left before it’s 6am here and I just sat in the living room thinking and trying to collect my thoughts together and listening to the radio at the same time. I still remembered I was listening to one of those morning programmes and one of the radio DJs was asking his colleague who was in Dortmund watching the action and asked for his report on the sentiments from the ground. His colleague said something about the home fans couldn’t believe it, crying and so on (or so this was what I remembered listening to the radio report). I remembered reading reports the following day in the papers that the fans were saying something like ‘We’re going to Berlin’ but then, boom. It was all up in smoke. It made me even want to cry even more. That was when it finally hit me that I had always like the German national team all along. To think it took me a long time to realise it.

Oh, later that day in the afternoon, my brother talked about the match (he was hoping for Italy to go through, that’s why) and that was when I started to get emotional towards him. I remembered I almost raised my voice at him. It was then the fact finally sunk in for me that Germany is not going to be in the final after all and I had to learn to move on. I had never felt so much attachment towards a team before on this level. For a few days or so, I don’t even feel like reading especially the sports section in the papers. Whenever I picked up the papers and came across the sports section during those times, my emotionals get the better of me again.

And when I was watching the third-place playoff against Portugal, I already had the sneaky feeling Juergen Klinsmann will step aside after the end of the whole tournament. I was right…and almost wanted to cry again. Okay, post-Klinsmann era…the national team is still doing fine and I give where credit’s due. I had always knew Klinsmann will come back into football coaching again but still, I remembered I was caught off-guard when it was announced he will be the new Bayern Munich coach this July. I almost wanted to scream with excitement and run around the house like a mad woman when the news is for real. Yeah, I’m a fan of the man. :) I cannot wait to see what’s going to happen when he’s at Bayern. ;)

‘I have almost always had to defend why I liked the German team, now I am glad to see finally it’s acceptable.’
You are lucky, Nick. I get teased for it (by my brother). Even my father accepted the fact that his daughter supports the German national team and he once told one of my relatives about it given we were talking about football then. I thought nobody knew…my father did. But then again, I am the daughter of a football-crazy father and I can never hide that away from him.

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Username By Angela | April 30th, 2008 at 10:41 am
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Nick: Can you send me an email at musicreviewblog at gmail dot com please?

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